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Group Intelligence in Complex Systems

When groups of individual units come together, they sometimes work as if controlled by a unifying/group intelligence. E.g. Flocks of birds, fish etc.
The human body is made up of individual cells, all working together with a unifying intelligence, in a similar way.
Even plasma seems to show some form of control in the way in which it moves.

Why would the human race as a whole be any different? We are a lot more complex, yes, but if we moved out far enough, would we be able to see the unifying/group intelligence that appears to be controlling us?

As above, so below. The patterns of humanity as a whole, refelct the general patterns within each individual. Details of the individuals are different, but the underlying patterns are the same.
We talk about our 'inner demons' .. Could the 'Satan' figure, be the group expression of these inner demons spread across the whole of humanity, as a group intelligence?
And by the same token, could the polar opposite of the dark, be the good side of people, expressing itself on a higher level encompassing all of humanity.
For all appearances, if you viewed what was going on from enough distance, then it might appear that there was a controlling intelligence for each side, its just hard to view from where we are. If you look at a flock of birds or school of fish, all moving and turning in unison :- if we didn't know they were individual birds, we might theorise that they were one organism.
Our perspective is skewed because we are the individual units, and people often want to believe they have the free will to do anything.

Is this where the religious perspective of "God" and "Satan" fighting over the souls of humanity, comes from? The two unifying intelligences fighting each other, in the same way people have internal conflicts? (I use the terms God and Satan in a general sort of way to represent light and dark, rather than a specific reference)

Of course above this, the fusion of the two sides, could be viewed as another intelligence, more balanced.. That would be more like a complete human itself, with light and dark sides.

How far out can you go?
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i think people have free will to do whatever they want... if they can realize they want to do it. that's how i would choose to justify your idea here. if there is an overlying consciousness(even if it is not conscious of itself) it is not necessarily -controlling- us for we are indeed part of it, and to some degree we would(i imagine, of course) affect it as well. but even without the individual affecting the whole being a part of the idea, i don't think that type of consciousness strips us of our will. it can just keep us from seeing or feeling whatever it is we'd really want to do, thus putting a damper on our will.

of course, you are certainly correct that the possibility exists that i am never myself as i think i am, and every decision i make has already been made by someone else. but if that -is- the case, what is the difference? i feel like me regardless of what causes me to be. so i am. period.

that's my take. good post, as always. i look forward to them.
I'll go out there a ways...

I believe we are some sort of energy devise with positive and negative poles, just like a battery.

We have seen what the power of prayer or meditation does when groups come together for a common cause.

Imagine if the 6 billion plus on this planet were to have the same thought at the same time...what kind of energy would that create and what could be done with that enegry...yup. we're just batteries on a cosmic level in some sort of computer program...or not ;)

Peace
I've seen some compelling arguments for taking it all the way, taking life/consciousness as a fractal progression from the entire universe as a whole, down through superclusters, galaxies, stars, planets and individual people/creatures down to organs and cells.

Like you said, it's difficult to gain an accurate overview when you're still inside the system, but even the idea that we're interconnected as part of a whole does some powerful things to your sense of perspective.

pyrohypnotik's idea of billions of people having the same thought at the same time pretty much nails it - what are two billion people thinking about at the same time every sunday morning..? :p